Compassion for a man who decided to stalk and follow a boy for no reason except for being "suspicious" (read: code word for black)? Zimmerman deserves to suffer a long, long life of agony and pain.
If you're not black, you don't understand and would never understand or be able to relate. Please do not try to put in a few sentences how you think I feel towards this whole situation. Especially if you're going to say that "race isn't an issue."
I'm saying race isn't an issue in this case. And btw, every race has stereotypes. I have a black best friend and I grew up with her and the rest of her siblings, so I do understand In a way that people are as/sholes and think that just because someone is black means that they have done/are doing something wrong. So stop acting like I don't know anything because I do. Let's be honest now. If Trayvon was white you wouldn't give a sh/t. Would you?
Race is an issue because it shows how Trayvon represents every Black person in America. It's nice that you have a Black best friend, what do you want now, a race card? Your "I know someone black so I know their struggles" pass? You don't know the struggles of Black people, you don't know the discrimination first-hand. You don't know the stigma that comes with being Black. I don't know why you want to so desperately be Black all of a sudden. If Trayvon was white, I would care, because no caring over someone's death is basically lacking compassion and being a sh1tty person. But, because Trayvon was Black, it holds more significance to me.
Now, if you want to continue to be condescending, I don't want to listen.
I wasn't saying I understand first hand but I understand why it makes you mad/angry/upset. I'm not stupid and I have struggled with people being towards me and other people of my race. I don't want to be black all of a sudden, I never said that. I'm perfectly fine with the person I am. You don't need to put words in my mouth, I can speak for myself. But I'm done, so bye bye. Have a great day, sir. :)
People are allowed to be angry over someone's wrongful death. Saying you have never cared (even if you mean it in an innocent or joking manner) is really inconsiderate to the Martin family and all those grieving.
I understand that you feel as though black people are always misjudged just because they are black but if you take the race out of it, it's still an issue. Therefore, it wasn't a race issue.
If you're not black, you don't understand and would never understand or be able to relate. Please do not try to put in a few sentences how you think I feel towards this whole situation. Especially if you're going to say that "race isn't an issue."
I'm saying race isn't an issue in this case. And btw, every race has stereotypes. I have a black best friend and I grew up with her and the rest of her siblings, so I do understand In a way that people are as/sholes and think that just because someone is black means that they have done/are doing something wrong. So stop acting like I don't know anything because I do. Let's be honest now. If Trayvon was white you wouldn't give a sh/t. Would you?
Race is an issue because it shows how Trayvon represents every Black person in America. It's nice that you have a Black best friend, what do you want now, a race card? Your "I know someone black so I know their struggles" pass? You don't know the struggles of Black people, you don't know the discrimination first-hand. You don't know the stigma that comes with being Black. I don't know why you want to so desperately be Black all of a sudden. If Trayvon was white, I would care, because no caring over someone's death is basically lacking compassion and being a sh1tty person. But, because Trayvon was Black, it holds more significance to me.
Now, if you want to continue to be condescending, I don't want to listen.
I wasn't saying I understand first hand but I understand why it makes you mad/angry/upset. I'm not stupid and I have struggled with people being towards me and other people of my race. I don't want to be black all of a sudden, I never said that. I'm perfectly fine with the person I am. You don't need to put words in my mouth, I can speak for myself. But I'm done, so bye bye. Have a great day, sir. :)
I understand that you feel as though black people are always misjudged just because they are black but if you take the race out of it, it's still an issue. Therefore, it wasn't a race issue.
If you're not black, you don't understand and would never understand or be able to relate. Please do not try to put in a few sentences how you think I feel towards this whole situation. Especially if you're going to say that "race isn't an issue."
I'm saying race isn't an issue in this case. And btw, every race has stereotypes. I have a black best friend and I grew up with her and the rest of her siblings, so I do understand In a way that people are as/sholes and think that just because someone is black means that they have done/are doing something wrong. So stop acting like I don't know anything because I do. Let's be honest now. If Trayvon was white you wouldn't give a sh/t. Would you?
Race is an issue because it shows how Trayvon represents every Black person in America. It's nice that you have a Black best friend, what do you want now, a race card? Your "I know someone black so I know their struggles" pass? You don't know the struggles of Black people, you don't know the discrimination first-hand. You don't know the stigma that comes with being Black. I don't know why you want to so desperately be Black all of a sudden. If Trayvon was white, I would care, because no caring over someone's death is basically lacking compassion and being a sh1tty person. But, because Trayvon was Black, it holds more significance to me.
Now, if you want to continue to be condescending, I don't want to listen.
I wasn't saying I understand first hand but I understand why it makes you mad/angry/upset. I'm not stupid and I have struggled with people being towards me and other people of my race. I don't want to be black all of a sudden, I never said that. I'm perfectly fine with the person I am. You don't need to put words in my mouth, I can speak for myself. But I'm done, so bye bye. Have a great day, sir. :)
Compassion for a man who decided to stalk and follow a boy for no reason except for being "suspicious" (read: code word for black)? Zimmerman deserves to suffer a long, long life of agony and pain.
I didn't say you did. But, when you get called out on being a r4cist, it's probably because you've said something that came off as r4cist. So, if you choose to instead whine over the fact of being called a r4cist instead of thinking back on your statements, it's self centered.
And, I'm not sure why you insist on bringing up the Trayvon Martin case, when this quote nor did my comment have anything to do with that. It is honestly so weird how you believe that it would have any relation to my comment or this quote.
Although I do not agree with you at this point I think we really oughta agree to disagree.
I'm sure you are a lovely person, I just don't agree with you and I don't see a point in continuing this conversation as neither of us is being swayed by the other and unless we do just end it on agree to disagree, I feel like it won't have a good ending.
White is literally a blanket term. If you want more terms to describe him, he's white passing and if anything racially ambiguous which affords him more privileges than being Black does. Zimmerman could have continued driving, yet he decided to get out of his car. He cannot claim it was self defense when he put himself in a situation of stalking someone. If this was a white kid, it would receive no publicity because the Black shooter would be jailed almost immediately. (White privilege.)
"He cannot claim it was self-defense" yes he can.
Pictures show he was badly beaten and an eyewitness has confirmed Trayvon was the one in control of the fight. Regardless of whether he should have followed him, regardless of why he followed him, he was the one that was attacked and he acted in a case of self-defense.
And were is your proof that if it was a black shooter they would be immediately convicted? What are you basing that off of? Media stereotypes and the general idea of or the fact that it actually happens because last I checked, you can only convict someone if they have gone through trial.
Also I thought I blocked you how were you able to respond to my comment
Although I do not agree with you at this point I think we really oughta agree to disagree.
I'm sure you are a lovely person, I just don't agree with you and I don't see a point in continuing this conversation as neither of us is being swayed by the other and unless we do just end it on agree to disagree, I feel like it won't have a good ending.
Saying this statement is so self centered. You literally care more about being called a r4cist than looking back at the statements you've made and thinking "Hey, maybe these statements do come off as r4cist and I'll apologize for it instead of saying more rude things."
I didn't say one thing that connotes rascism. I only said that race isn't a factor when it comes to this trial. It is not a hate crime, it is a self defense crime. PLEASE review your information before you insult anymore people.
I didn't say you did. But, when you get called out on being a r4cist, it's probably because you've said something that came off as r4cist. So, if you choose to instead whine over the fact of being called a r4cist instead of thinking back on your statements, it's self centered.
And, I'm not sure why you insist on bringing up the Trayvon Martin case, when this quote nor did my comment have anything to do with that. It is honestly so weird how you believe that it would have any relation to my comment or this quote.
What is suspicious about wearing a hood? And why wouldn't Trayvon belong there? Trayvon was staying with his father and the father's girlfriend. If anything, Trayvon was defending himself. In the phone call Trayvon made with his friend, he states that he was being followed by someone creepy -- Trayvon was scared. Trayvon isn't allowed to defend himself after being stalked though, is he? White hispanic isn't a false term, it's literally describing what Zimmerman is. He comes from a Spanish speaking background (making his ethnicity Hispanic) but his skin color is White. Race has to do with skin color.
It becomes a race issue because Trayvon stands for all Black people in America. Black people can literally be stalked and killed for wearing their hood.
Temporally.. He didn't need to be walking around looking at the houses while he was on drugs.. And your comments are just reallllyyy stupid.. You obviously just care about the race in the matter, which is extremely unnecessary, especially since everything about the case has proven it all to be self-defense.
He was staying there, that's all that matters. He wasn't trespassing. He wasn't on drugs, if anything he had smoked weed and his THC levels show that it was so little that he could have smoked it days prior to the issue. I guess you're no longer allowed to walk around, are you? Especially if you're Black and looking "thuggish". This is about race.
And my comments weren't as stupid as yours, seeing as you had to delete your previous one, lol.
Wasn't on drugs? He most certainly acted like he was. And temporally staying there because he was kicked out of school for bringing drugs... to school... Zimmerman probably didn't recognize him as he was staying there temporally and he had a hood on, making him more unrecognizable. He was dallying around looking at houses suspiciously... And if its sooooooo about race, then why didn't you mention Trayvon calling Zimmerman a cracker in his phone call? When Zimmerman called the cops, he didn't even mention Trayvon's race until he was asked. That proves that Zimmerman wasn't even focused on his race. goooooossshhh.
White hispanic IS a false term. It is not a thing. It did not exist until this case.
His skin colour is not white, if you have actually seen him you can SEE he is hispanic.
And he was not defending himself, he could have continued walking, but he didn't. He stopped and attacked Zimmerman and quite horribly injured him, as photographic evidence can show.
And really, you're not going to be able to convince me of this being a racial issue because had this been a white kid it would never have made the news, which means we have NO idea just how many times something similar has happened to a white kid because it was never blown up by the media the way this was.
But I can see this is a total dead-end conversation, so I'm blocking you and I am done with this because neither of us is going to change the other ones mind and this is not worth it.
White is literally a blanket term. If you want more terms to describe him, he's white passing and if anything racially ambiguous which affords him more privileges than being Black does. Zimmerman could have continued driving, yet he decided to get out of his car. He cannot claim it was self defense when he put himself in a situation of stalking someone. If this was a white kid, it would receive no publicity because the Black shooter would be jailed almost immediately. (White privilege.)
"He cannot claim it was self-defense" yes he can.
Pictures show he was badly beaten and an eyewitness has confirmed Trayvon was the one in control of the fight. Regardless of whether he should have followed him, regardless of why he followed him, he was the one that was attacked and he acted in a case of self-defense.
And were is your proof that if it was a black shooter they would be immediately convicted? What are you basing that off of? Media stereotypes and the general idea of or the fact that it actually happens because last I checked, you can only convict someone if they have gone through trial.
Also I thought I blocked you how were you able to respond to my comment
Although I do not agree with you at this point I think we really oughta agree to disagree.
I'm sure you are a lovely person, I just don't agree with you and I don't see a point in continuing this conversation as neither of us is being swayed by the other and unless we do just end it on agree to disagree, I feel like it won't have a good ending.
Ignoring his skin color is erasing so much history, as also previously stated before. Even if dismissing his skin color, a 17 year old boy didn't deserve to die. No one is using skin color to convict Zimmerman, but ignoring that this isn't a race issue is ignorant. Because, as I will continue to say, Trayvon stands for any other Black body in America.
It isn't a race issue though.
If you paid attention to the case, it was an issue of Trayvon looking suspicious as anyone walking with a hood up in a place they don't belong would, and attacking a man. Whether that man should have followed him or not is debatable, but he acted entirely in self-defense as an eyewitness has said.
The court case and the over-all ruling is not connected to a racial issue.
The only reason anybody is saying that it is is because the media blew it up into a thing and made it out to be one. They even created a false term to describe Zimmerman, "white hispanic", to mould it into a race issue.
What is suspicious about wearing a hood? And why wouldn't Trayvon belong there? Trayvon was staying with his father and the father's girlfriend. If anything, Trayvon was defending himself. In the phone call Trayvon made with his friend, he states that he was being followed by someone creepy -- Trayvon was scared. Trayvon isn't allowed to defend himself after being stalked though, is he? White hispanic isn't a false term, it's literally describing what Zimmerman is. He comes from a Spanish speaking background (making his ethnicity Hispanic) but his skin color is White. Race has to do with skin color.
It becomes a race issue because Trayvon stands for all Black people in America. Black people can literally be stalked and killed for wearing their hood.
Temporally.. He didn't need to be walking around looking at the houses while he was on drugs.. And your comments are just reallllyyy stupid.. You obviously just care about the race in the matter, which is extremely unnecessary, especially since everything about the case has proven it all to be self-defense.
He was staying there, that's all that matters. He wasn't trespassing. He wasn't on drugs, if anything he had smoked weed and his THC levels show that it was so little that he could have smoked it days prior to the issue. I guess you're no longer allowed to walk around, are you? Especially if you're Black and looking "thuggish". This is about race.
And my comments weren't as stupid as yours, seeing as you had to delete your previous one, lol.
Wasn't on drugs? He most certainly acted like he was. And temporally staying there because he was kicked out of school for bringing drugs... to school... Zimmerman probably didn't recognize him as he was staying there temporally and he had a hood on, making him more unrecognizable. He was dallying around looking at houses suspiciously... And if its sooooooo about race, then why didn't you mention Trayvon calling Zimmerman a cracker in his phone call? When Zimmerman called the cops, he didn't even mention Trayvon's race until he was asked. That proves that Zimmerman wasn't even focused on his race. goooooossshhh.
White hispanic IS a false term. It is not a thing. It did not exist until this case.
His skin colour is not white, if you have actually seen him you can SEE he is hispanic.
And he was not defending himself, he could have continued walking, but he didn't. He stopped and attacked Zimmerman and quite horribly injured him, as photographic evidence can show.
And really, you're not going to be able to convince me of this being a racial issue because had this been a white kid it would never have made the news, which means we have NO idea just how many times something similar has happened to a white kid because it was never blown up by the media the way this was.
But I can see this is a total dead-end conversation, so I'm blocking you and I am done with this because neither of us is going to change the other ones mind and this is not worth it.
White is literally a blanket term. If you want more terms to describe him, he's white passing and if anything racially ambiguous which affords him more privileges than being Black does. Zimmerman could have continued driving, yet he decided to get out of his car. He cannot claim it was self defense when he put himself in a situation of stalking someone. If this was a white kid, it would receive no publicity because the Black shooter would be jailed almost immediately. (White privilege.)
"He cannot claim it was self-defense" yes he can.
Pictures show he was badly beaten and an eyewitness has confirmed Trayvon was the one in control of the fight. Regardless of whether he should have followed him, regardless of why he followed him, he was the one that was attacked and he acted in a case of self-defense.
And were is your proof that if it was a black shooter they would be immediately convicted? What are you basing that off of? Media stereotypes and the general idea of or the fact that it actually happens because last I checked, you can only convict someone if they have gone through trial.
Also I thought I blocked you how were you able to respond to my comment
Although I do not agree with you at this point I think we really oughta agree to disagree.
I'm sure you are a lovely person, I just don't agree with you and I don't see a point in continuing this conversation as neither of us is being swayed by the other and unless we do just end it on agree to disagree, I feel like it won't have a good ending.
What kind of statement is that? As I've already stated Trayvon stands as any black body in America. He stands for me, my brother, my father, my grandfather, my future son. Trayvon's race places an important part in this case, ignoring it is living in ignorance.
No, it isn't ignorant.
To be truly unprejudiced is to treat Trayvon as if his skin colour did not matter, as if he were any other colour of skin, which is what most informed people are doing.
That's what the jury did. They didn't take his skin colour into account because it has absolutely nothing to do with the case.
Obsessing over it and trying to use it as a point to convict a man is wrong.
Ignoring his skin color is erasing so much history, as also previously stated before. Even if dismissing his skin color, a 17 year old boy didn't deserve to die. No one is using skin color to convict Zimmerman, but ignoring that this isn't a race issue is ignorant. Because, as I will continue to say, Trayvon stands for any other Black body in America.
It isn't a race issue though.
If you paid attention to the case, it was an issue of Trayvon looking suspicious as anyone walking with a hood up in a place they don't belong would, and attacking a man. Whether that man should have followed him or not is debatable, but he acted entirely in self-defense as an eyewitness has said.
The court case and the over-all ruling is not connected to a racial issue.
The only reason anybody is saying that it is is because the media blew it up into a thing and made it out to be one. They even created a false term to describe Zimmerman, "white hispanic", to mould it into a race issue.
What is suspicious about wearing a hood? And why wouldn't Trayvon belong there? Trayvon was staying with his father and the father's girlfriend. If anything, Trayvon was defending himself. In the phone call Trayvon made with his friend, he states that he was being followed by someone creepy -- Trayvon was scared. Trayvon isn't allowed to defend himself after being stalked though, is he? White hispanic isn't a false term, it's literally describing what Zimmerman is. He comes from a Spanish speaking background (making his ethnicity Hispanic) but his skin color is White. Race has to do with skin color.
It becomes a race issue because Trayvon stands for all Black people in America. Black people can literally be stalked and killed for wearing their hood.
Temporally.. He didn't need to be walking around looking at the houses while he was on drugs.. And your comments are just reallllyyy stupid.. You obviously just care about the race in the matter, which is extremely unnecessary, especially since everything about the case has proven it all to be self-defense.
He was staying there, that's all that matters. He wasn't trespassing. He wasn't on drugs, if anything he had smoked weed and his THC levels show that it was so little that he could have smoked it days prior to the issue. I guess you're no longer allowed to walk around, are you? Especially if you're Black and looking "thuggish". This is about race.
And my comments weren't as stupid as yours, seeing as you had to delete your previous one, lol.
Wasn't on drugs? He most certainly acted like he was. And temporally staying there because he was kicked out of school for bringing drugs... to school... Zimmerman probably didn't recognize him as he was staying there temporally and he had a hood on, making him more unrecognizable. He was dallying around looking at houses suspiciously... And if its sooooooo about race, then why didn't you mention Trayvon calling Zimmerman a cracker in his phone call? When Zimmerman called the cops, he didn't even mention Trayvon's race until he was asked. That proves that Zimmerman wasn't even focused on his race. goooooossshhh.
White hispanic IS a false term. It is not a thing. It did not exist until this case.
His skin colour is not white, if you have actually seen him you can SEE he is hispanic.
And he was not defending himself, he could have continued walking, but he didn't. He stopped and attacked Zimmerman and quite horribly injured him, as photographic evidence can show.
And really, you're not going to be able to convince me of this being a racial issue because had this been a white kid it would never have made the news, which means we have NO idea just how many times something similar has happened to a white kid because it was never blown up by the media the way this was.
But I can see this is a total dead-end conversation, so I'm blocking you and I am done with this because neither of us is going to change the other ones mind and this is not worth it.
White is literally a blanket term. If you want more terms to describe him, he's white passing and if anything racially ambiguous which affords him more privileges than being Black does. Zimmerman could have continued driving, yet he decided to get out of his car. He cannot claim it was self defense when he put himself in a situation of stalking someone. If this was a white kid, it would receive no publicity because the Black shooter would be jailed almost immediately. (White privilege.)
"He cannot claim it was self-defense" yes he can.
Pictures show he was badly beaten and an eyewitness has confirmed Trayvon was the one in control of the fight. Regardless of whether he should have followed him, regardless of why he followed him, he was the one that was attacked and he acted in a case of self-defense.
And were is your proof that if it was a black shooter they would be immediately convicted? What are you basing that off of? Media stereotypes and the general idea of or the fact that it actually happens because last I checked, you can only convict someone if they have gone through trial.
Also I thought I blocked you how were you able to respond to my comment
Although I do not agree with you at this point I think we really oughta agree to disagree.
I'm sure you are a lovely person, I just don't agree with you and I don't see a point in continuing this conversation as neither of us is being swayed by the other and unless we do just end it on agree to disagree, I feel like it won't have a good ending.
What kind of statement is that? As I've already stated Trayvon stands as any black body in America. He stands for me, my brother, my father, my grandfather, my future son. Trayvon's race places an important part in this case, ignoring it is living in ignorance.
No, it isn't ignorant.
To be truly unprejudiced is to treat Trayvon as if his skin colour did not matter, as if he were any other colour of skin, which is what most informed people are doing.
That's what the jury did. They didn't take his skin colour into account because it has absolutely nothing to do with the case.
Obsessing over it and trying to use it as a point to convict a man is wrong.
Ignoring his skin color is erasing so much history, as also previously stated before. Even if dismissing his skin color, a 17 year old boy didn't deserve to die. No one is using skin color to convict Zimmerman, but ignoring that this isn't a race issue is ignorant. Because, as I will continue to say, Trayvon stands for any other Black body in America.
It isn't a race issue though.
If you paid attention to the case, it was an issue of Trayvon looking suspicious as anyone walking with a hood up in a place they don't belong would, and attacking a man. Whether that man should have followed him or not is debatable, but he acted entirely in self-defense as an eyewitness has said.
The court case and the over-all ruling is not connected to a racial issue.
The only reason anybody is saying that it is is because the media blew it up into a thing and made it out to be one. They even created a false term to describe Zimmerman, "white hispanic", to mould it into a race issue.
What is suspicious about wearing a hood? And why wouldn't Trayvon belong there? Trayvon was staying with his father and the father's girlfriend. If anything, Trayvon was defending himself. In the phone call Trayvon made with his friend, he states that he was being followed by someone creepy -- Trayvon was scared. Trayvon isn't allowed to defend himself after being stalked though, is he? White hispanic isn't a false term, it's literally describing what Zimmerman is. He comes from a Spanish speaking background (making his ethnicity Hispanic) but his skin color is White. Race has to do with skin color.
It becomes a race issue because Trayvon stands for all Black people in America. Black people can literally be stalked and killed for wearing their hood.
Temporally.. He didn't need to be walking around looking at the houses while he was on drugs.. And your comments are just reallllyyy stupid.. You obviously just care about the race in the matter, which is extremely unnecessary, especially since everything about the case has proven it all to be self-defense.
He was staying there, that's all that matters. He wasn't trespassing. He wasn't on drugs, if anything he had smoked weed and his THC levels show that it was so little that he could have smoked it days prior to the issue. I guess you're no longer allowed to walk around, are you? Especially if you're Black and looking "thuggish". This is about race.
And my comments weren't as stupid as yours, seeing as you had to delete your previous one, lol.
Wasn't on drugs? He most certainly acted like he was. And temporally staying there because he was kicked out of school for bringing drugs... to school... Zimmerman probably didn't recognize him as he was staying there temporally and he had a hood on, making him more unrecognizable. He was dallying around looking at houses suspiciously... And if its sooooooo about race, then why didn't you mention Trayvon calling Zimmerman a cracker in his phone call? When Zimmerman called the cops, he didn't even mention Trayvon's race until he was asked. That proves that Zimmerman wasn't even focused on his race. goooooossshhh.
White hispanic IS a false term. It is not a thing. It did not exist until this case.
His skin colour is not white, if you have actually seen him you can SEE he is hispanic.
And he was not defending himself, he could have continued walking, but he didn't. He stopped and attacked Zimmerman and quite horribly injured him, as photographic evidence can show.
And really, you're not going to be able to convince me of this being a racial issue because had this been a white kid it would never have made the news, which means we have NO idea just how many times something similar has happened to a white kid because it was never blown up by the media the way this was.
But I can see this is a total dead-end conversation, so I'm blocking you and I am done with this because neither of us is going to change the other ones mind and this is not worth it.
White is literally a blanket term. If you want more terms to describe him, he's white passing and if anything racially ambiguous which affords him more privileges than being Black does. Zimmerman could have continued driving, yet he decided to get out of his car. He cannot claim it was self defense when he put himself in a situation of stalking someone. If this was a white kid, it would receive no publicity because the Black shooter would be jailed almost immediately. (White privilege.)
"He cannot claim it was self-defense" yes he can.
Pictures show he was badly beaten and an eyewitness has confirmed Trayvon was the one in control of the fight. Regardless of whether he should have followed him, regardless of why he followed him, he was the one that was attacked and he acted in a case of self-defense.
And were is your proof that if it was a black shooter they would be immediately convicted? What are you basing that off of? Media stereotypes and the general idea of or the fact that it actually happens because last I checked, you can only convict someone if they have gone through trial.
Also I thought I blocked you how were you able to respond to my comment
Although I do not agree with you at this point I think we really oughta agree to disagree.
I'm sure you are a lovely person, I just don't agree with you and I don't see a point in continuing this conversation as neither of us is being swayed by the other and unless we do just end it on agree to disagree, I feel like it won't have a good ending.
What kind of statement is that? As I've already stated Trayvon stands as any black body in America. He stands for me, my brother, my father, my grandfather, my future son. Trayvon's race places an important part in this case, ignoring it is living in ignorance.
No, it isn't ignorant.
To be truly unprejudiced is to treat Trayvon as if his skin colour did not matter, as if he were any other colour of skin, which is what most informed people are doing.
That's what the jury did. They didn't take his skin colour into account because it has absolutely nothing to do with the case.
Obsessing over it and trying to use it as a point to convict a man is wrong.
Ignoring his skin color is erasing so much history, as also previously stated before. Even if dismissing his skin color, a 17 year old boy didn't deserve to die. No one is using skin color to convict Zimmerman, but ignoring that this isn't a race issue is ignorant. Because, as I will continue to say, Trayvon stands for any other Black body in America.
It isn't a race issue though.
If you paid attention to the case, it was an issue of Trayvon looking suspicious as anyone walking with a hood up in a place they don't belong would, and attacking a man. Whether that man should have followed him or not is debatable, but he acted entirely in self-defense as an eyewitness has said.
The court case and the over-all ruling is not connected to a racial issue.
The only reason anybody is saying that it is is because the media blew it up into a thing and made it out to be one. They even created a false term to describe Zimmerman, "white hispanic", to mould it into a race issue.
What is suspicious about wearing a hood? And why wouldn't Trayvon belong there? Trayvon was staying with his father and the father's girlfriend. If anything, Trayvon was defending himself. In the phone call Trayvon made with his friend, he states that he was being followed by someone creepy -- Trayvon was scared. Trayvon isn't allowed to defend himself after being stalked though, is he? White hispanic isn't a false term, it's literally describing what Zimmerman is. He comes from a Spanish speaking background (making his ethnicity Hispanic) but his skin color is White. Race has to do with skin color.
It becomes a race issue because Trayvon stands for all Black people in America. Black people can literally be stalked and killed for wearing their hood.
Temporally.. He didn't need to be walking around looking at the houses while he was on drugs.. And your comments are just reallllyyy stupid.. You obviously just care about the race in the matter, which is extremely unnecessary, especially since everything about the case has proven it all to be self-defense.
He was staying there, that's all that matters. He wasn't trespassing. He wasn't on drugs, if anything he had smoked weed and his THC levels show that it was so little that he could have smoked it days prior to the issue. I guess you're no longer allowed to walk around, are you? Especially if you're Black and looking "thuggish". This is about race.
And my comments weren't as stupid as yours, seeing as you had to delete your previous one, lol.
Wasn't on drugs? He most certainly acted like he was. And temporally staying there because he was kicked out of school for bringing drugs... to school... Zimmerman probably didn't recognize him as he was staying there temporally and he had a hood on, making him more unrecognizable. He was dallying around looking at houses suspiciously... And if its sooooooo about race, then why didn't you mention Trayvon calling Zimmerman a cracker in his phone call? When Zimmerman called the cops, he didn't even mention Trayvon's race until he was asked. That proves that Zimmerman wasn't even focused on his race. goooooossshhh.
White hispanic IS a false term. It is not a thing. It did not exist until this case.
His skin colour is not white, if you have actually seen him you can SEE he is hispanic.
And he was not defending himself, he could have continued walking, but he didn't. He stopped and attacked Zimmerman and quite horribly injured him, as photographic evidence can show.
And really, you're not going to be able to convince me of this being a racial issue because had this been a white kid it would never have made the news, which means we have NO idea just how many times something similar has happened to a white kid because it was never blown up by the media the way this was.
But I can see this is a total dead-end conversation, so I'm blocking you and I am done with this because neither of us is going to change the other ones mind and this is not worth it.
White is literally a blanket term. If you want more terms to describe him, he's white passing and if anything racially ambiguous which affords him more privileges than being Black does. Zimmerman could have continued driving, yet he decided to get out of his car. He cannot claim it was self defense when he put himself in a situation of stalking someone. If this was a white kid, it would receive no publicity because the Black shooter would be jailed almost immediately. (White privilege.)
"He cannot claim it was self-defense" yes he can.
Pictures show he was badly beaten and an eyewitness has confirmed Trayvon was the one in control of the fight. Regardless of whether he should have followed him, regardless of why he followed him, he was the one that was attacked and he acted in a case of self-defense.
And were is your proof that if it was a black shooter they would be immediately convicted? What are you basing that off of? Media stereotypes and the general idea of or the fact that it actually happens because last I checked, you can only convict someone if they have gone through trial.
Also I thought I blocked you how were you able to respond to my comment
Although I do not agree with you at this point I think we really oughta agree to disagree.
I'm sure you are a lovely person, I just don't agree with you and I don't see a point in continuing this conversation as neither of us is being swayed by the other and unless we do just end it on agree to disagree, I feel like it won't have a good ending.
Yes because the spelling of his name is the most important part of the comment. No one cares that she misspelled Trayvon but you. It was an honest mistake. Let. It. Go.
What kind of statement is that? As I've already stated Trayvon stands as any black body in America. He stands for me, my brother, my father, my grandfather, my future son. Trayvon's race places an important part in this case, ignoring it is living in ignorance.
No, it isn't ignorant.
To be truly unprejudiced is to treat Trayvon as if his skin colour did not matter, as if he were any other colour of skin, which is what most informed people are doing.
That's what the jury did. They didn't take his skin colour into account because it has absolutely nothing to do with the case.
Obsessing over it and trying to use it as a point to convict a man is wrong.
Ignoring his skin color is erasing so much history, as also previously stated before. Even if dismissing his skin color, a 17 year old boy didn't deserve to die. No one is using skin color to convict Zimmerman, but ignoring that this isn't a race issue is ignorant. Because, as I will continue to say, Trayvon stands for any other Black body in America.
It isn't a race issue though.
If you paid attention to the case, it was an issue of Trayvon looking suspicious as anyone walking with a hood up in a place they don't belong would, and attacking a man. Whether that man should have followed him or not is debatable, but he acted entirely in self-defense as an eyewitness has said.
The court case and the over-all ruling is not connected to a racial issue.
The only reason anybody is saying that it is is because the media blew it up into a thing and made it out to be one. They even created a false term to describe Zimmerman, "white hispanic", to mould it into a race issue.
What is suspicious about wearing a hood? And why wouldn't Trayvon belong there? Trayvon was staying with his father and the father's girlfriend. If anything, Trayvon was defending himself. In the phone call Trayvon made with his friend, he states that he was being followed by someone creepy -- Trayvon was scared. Trayvon isn't allowed to defend himself after being stalked though, is he? White hispanic isn't a false term, it's literally describing what Zimmerman is. He comes from a Spanish speaking background (making his ethnicity Hispanic) but his skin color is White. Race has to do with skin color.
It becomes a race issue because Trayvon stands for all Black people in America. Black people can literally be stalked and killed for wearing their hood.
Temporally.. He didn't need to be walking around looking at the houses while he was on drugs.. And your comments are just reallllyyy stupid.. You obviously just care about the race in the matter, which is extremely unnecessary, especially since everything about the case has proven it all to be self-defense.
He was staying there, that's all that matters. He wasn't trespassing. He wasn't on drugs, if anything he had smoked weed and his THC levels show that it was so little that he could have smoked it days prior to the issue. I guess you're no longer allowed to walk around, are you? Especially if you're Black and looking "thuggish". This is about race.
And my comments weren't as stupid as yours, seeing as you had to delete your previous one, lol.
Wasn't on drugs? He most certainly acted like he was. And temporally staying there because he was kicked out of school for bringing drugs... to school... Zimmerman probably didn't recognize him as he was staying there temporally and he had a hood on, making him more unrecognizable. He was dallying around looking at houses suspiciously... And if its sooooooo about race, then why didn't you mention Trayvon calling Zimmerman a cracker in his phone call? When Zimmerman called the cops, he didn't even mention Trayvon's race until he was asked. That proves that Zimmerman wasn't even focused on his race. goooooossshhh.
White hispanic IS a false term. It is not a thing. It did not exist until this case.
His skin colour is not white, if you have actually seen him you can SEE he is hispanic.
And he was not defending himself, he could have continued walking, but he didn't. He stopped and attacked Zimmerman and quite horribly injured him, as photographic evidence can show.
And really, you're not going to be able to convince me of this being a racial issue because had this been a white kid it would never have made the news, which means we have NO idea just how many times something similar has happened to a white kid because it was never blown up by the media the way this was.
But I can see this is a total dead-end conversation, so I'm blocking you and I am done with this because neither of us is going to change the other ones mind and this is not worth it.
White is literally a blanket term. If you want more terms to describe him, he's white passing and if anything racially ambiguous which affords him more privileges than being Black does. Zimmerman could have continued driving, yet he decided to get out of his car. He cannot claim it was self defense when he put himself in a situation of stalking someone. If this was a white kid, it would receive no publicity because the Black shooter would be jailed almost immediately. (White privilege.)
"He cannot claim it was self-defense" yes he can.
Pictures show he was badly beaten and an eyewitness has confirmed Trayvon was the one in control of the fight. Regardless of whether he should have followed him, regardless of why he followed him, he was the one that was attacked and he acted in a case of self-defense.
And were is your proof that if it was a black shooter they would be immediately convicted? What are you basing that off of? Media stereotypes and the general idea of or the fact that it actually happens because last I checked, you can only convict someone if they have gone through trial.
Also I thought I blocked you how were you able to respond to my comment
Although I do not agree with you at this point I think we really oughta agree to disagree.
I'm sure you are a lovely person, I just don't agree with you and I don't see a point in continuing this conversation as neither of us is being swayed by the other and unless we do just end it on agree to disagree, I feel like it won't have a good ending.
Self defense? You do realize that Trayvon was followed by Zimmerman, even after the dispatcher told him not to, right? Why doesn't Trayvon get to be scared?
Compassion for a man who decided to stalk and follow a boy for no reason except for being "suspicious" (read: code word for black)? Zimmerman deserves to suffer a long, long life of agony and pain.
You calling me ignorant when you, yourself is ignorant is just ironic.
Now, if you want to continue to be condescending, I don't want to listen.
Now, if you want to continue to be condescending, I don't want to listen.
Now, if you want to continue to be condescending, I don't want to listen.
You calling me ignorant when you, yourself is ignorant is just ironic.
****THIS FORMAT WAS MADE BY PETRICHOR.
And, I'm not sure why you insist on bringing up the Trayvon Martin case, when this quote nor did my comment have anything to do with that. It is honestly so weird how you believe that it would have any relation to my comment or this quote.
This isn't your quote, so I can still reply because I'm not blocked by the OP.
I'm sure you are a lovely person, I just don't agree with you and I don't see a point in continuing this conversation as neither of us is being swayed by the other and unless we do just end it on agree to disagree, I feel like it won't have a good ending.
Pictures show he was badly beaten and an eyewitness has confirmed Trayvon was the one in control of the fight. Regardless of whether he should have followed him, regardless of why he followed him, he was the one that was attacked and he acted in a case of self-defense.
And were is your proof that if it was a black shooter they would be immediately convicted? What are you basing that off of? Media stereotypes and the general idea of or the fact that it actually happens because last I checked, you can only convict someone if they have gone through trial.
Also I thought I blocked you how were you able to respond to my comment
This isn't your quote, so I can still reply because I'm not blocked by the OP.
I'm sure you are a lovely person, I just don't agree with you and I don't see a point in continuing this conversation as neither of us is being swayed by the other and unless we do just end it on agree to disagree, I feel like it won't have a good ending.
And, I'm not sure why you insist on bringing up the Trayvon Martin case, when this quote nor did my comment have anything to do with that. It is honestly so weird how you believe that it would have any relation to my comment or this quote.
It becomes a race issue because Trayvon stands for all Black people in America. Black people can literally be stalked and killed for wearing their hood.
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And my comments weren't as stupid as yours, seeing as you had to delete your previous one, lol.
His skin colour is not white, if you have actually seen him you can SEE he is hispanic.
And he was not defending himself, he could have continued walking, but he didn't. He stopped and attacked Zimmerman and quite horribly injured him, as photographic evidence can show.
And really, you're not going to be able to convince me of this being a racial issue because had this been a white kid it would never have made the news, which means we have NO idea just how many times something similar has happened to a white kid because it was never blown up by the media the way this was.
But I can see this is a total dead-end conversation, so I'm blocking you and I am done with this because neither of us is going to change the other ones mind and this is not worth it.
Pictures show he was badly beaten and an eyewitness has confirmed Trayvon was the one in control of the fight. Regardless of whether he should have followed him, regardless of why he followed him, he was the one that was attacked and he acted in a case of self-defense.
And were is your proof that if it was a black shooter they would be immediately convicted? What are you basing that off of? Media stereotypes and the general idea of or the fact that it actually happens because last I checked, you can only convict someone if they have gone through trial.
Also I thought I blocked you how were you able to respond to my comment
This isn't your quote, so I can still reply because I'm not blocked by the OP.
I'm sure you are a lovely person, I just don't agree with you and I don't see a point in continuing this conversation as neither of us is being swayed by the other and unless we do just end it on agree to disagree, I feel like it won't have a good ending.
If you paid attention to the case, it was an issue of Trayvon looking suspicious as anyone walking with a hood up in a place they don't belong would, and attacking a man. Whether that man should have followed him or not is debatable, but he acted entirely in self-defense as an eyewitness has said.
The court case and the over-all ruling is not connected to a racial issue.
The only reason anybody is saying that it is is because the media blew it up into a thing and made it out to be one. They even created a false term to describe Zimmerman, "white hispanic", to mould it into a race issue.
It becomes a race issue because Trayvon stands for all Black people in America. Black people can literally be stalked and killed for wearing their hood.
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And my comments weren't as stupid as yours, seeing as you had to delete your previous one, lol.
His skin colour is not white, if you have actually seen him you can SEE he is hispanic.
And he was not defending himself, he could have continued walking, but he didn't. He stopped and attacked Zimmerman and quite horribly injured him, as photographic evidence can show.
And really, you're not going to be able to convince me of this being a racial issue because had this been a white kid it would never have made the news, which means we have NO idea just how many times something similar has happened to a white kid because it was never blown up by the media the way this was.
But I can see this is a total dead-end conversation, so I'm blocking you and I am done with this because neither of us is going to change the other ones mind and this is not worth it.
Pictures show he was badly beaten and an eyewitness has confirmed Trayvon was the one in control of the fight. Regardless of whether he should have followed him, regardless of why he followed him, he was the one that was attacked and he acted in a case of self-defense.
And were is your proof that if it was a black shooter they would be immediately convicted? What are you basing that off of? Media stereotypes and the general idea of or the fact that it actually happens because last I checked, you can only convict someone if they have gone through trial.
Also I thought I blocked you how were you able to respond to my comment
This isn't your quote, so I can still reply because I'm not blocked by the OP.
I'm sure you are a lovely person, I just don't agree with you and I don't see a point in continuing this conversation as neither of us is being swayed by the other and unless we do just end it on agree to disagree, I feel like it won't have a good ending.
To be truly unprejudiced is to treat Trayvon as if his skin colour did not matter, as if he were any other colour of skin, which is what most informed people are doing.
That's what the jury did. They didn't take his skin colour into account because it has absolutely nothing to do with the case.
Obsessing over it and trying to use it as a point to convict a man is wrong.
If you paid attention to the case, it was an issue of Trayvon looking suspicious as anyone walking with a hood up in a place they don't belong would, and attacking a man. Whether that man should have followed him or not is debatable, but he acted entirely in self-defense as an eyewitness has said.
The court case and the over-all ruling is not connected to a racial issue.
The only reason anybody is saying that it is is because the media blew it up into a thing and made it out to be one. They even created a false term to describe Zimmerman, "white hispanic", to mould it into a race issue.
It becomes a race issue because Trayvon stands for all Black people in America. Black people can literally be stalked and killed for wearing their hood.
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And my comments weren't as stupid as yours, seeing as you had to delete your previous one, lol.
His skin colour is not white, if you have actually seen him you can SEE he is hispanic.
And he was not defending himself, he could have continued walking, but he didn't. He stopped and attacked Zimmerman and quite horribly injured him, as photographic evidence can show.
And really, you're not going to be able to convince me of this being a racial issue because had this been a white kid it would never have made the news, which means we have NO idea just how many times something similar has happened to a white kid because it was never blown up by the media the way this was.
But I can see this is a total dead-end conversation, so I'm blocking you and I am done with this because neither of us is going to change the other ones mind and this is not worth it.
Pictures show he was badly beaten and an eyewitness has confirmed Trayvon was the one in control of the fight. Regardless of whether he should have followed him, regardless of why he followed him, he was the one that was attacked and he acted in a case of self-defense.
And were is your proof that if it was a black shooter they would be immediately convicted? What are you basing that off of? Media stereotypes and the general idea of or the fact that it actually happens because last I checked, you can only convict someone if they have gone through trial.
Also I thought I blocked you how were you able to respond to my comment
This isn't your quote, so I can still reply because I'm not blocked by the OP.
I'm sure you are a lovely person, I just don't agree with you and I don't see a point in continuing this conversation as neither of us is being swayed by the other and unless we do just end it on agree to disagree, I feel like it won't have a good ending.
YOU are the one obsessing over Trayvon's race.
To be truly unprejudiced is to treat Trayvon as if his skin colour did not matter, as if he were any other colour of skin, which is what most informed people are doing.
That's what the jury did. They didn't take his skin colour into account because it has absolutely nothing to do with the case.
Obsessing over it and trying to use it as a point to convict a man is wrong.
If you paid attention to the case, it was an issue of Trayvon looking suspicious as anyone walking with a hood up in a place they don't belong would, and attacking a man. Whether that man should have followed him or not is debatable, but he acted entirely in self-defense as an eyewitness has said.
The court case and the over-all ruling is not connected to a racial issue.
The only reason anybody is saying that it is is because the media blew it up into a thing and made it out to be one. They even created a false term to describe Zimmerman, "white hispanic", to mould it into a race issue.
It becomes a race issue because Trayvon stands for all Black people in America. Black people can literally be stalked and killed for wearing their hood.
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And my comments weren't as stupid as yours, seeing as you had to delete your previous one, lol.
His skin colour is not white, if you have actually seen him you can SEE he is hispanic.
And he was not defending himself, he could have continued walking, but he didn't. He stopped and attacked Zimmerman and quite horribly injured him, as photographic evidence can show.
And really, you're not going to be able to convince me of this being a racial issue because had this been a white kid it would never have made the news, which means we have NO idea just how many times something similar has happened to a white kid because it was never blown up by the media the way this was.
But I can see this is a total dead-end conversation, so I'm blocking you and I am done with this because neither of us is going to change the other ones mind and this is not worth it.
Pictures show he was badly beaten and an eyewitness has confirmed Trayvon was the one in control of the fight. Regardless of whether he should have followed him, regardless of why he followed him, he was the one that was attacked and he acted in a case of self-defense.
And were is your proof that if it was a black shooter they would be immediately convicted? What are you basing that off of? Media stereotypes and the general idea of or the fact that it actually happens because last I checked, you can only convict someone if they have gone through trial.
Also I thought I blocked you how were you able to respond to my comment
This isn't your quote, so I can still reply because I'm not blocked by the OP.
I'm sure you are a lovely person, I just don't agree with you and I don't see a point in continuing this conversation as neither of us is being swayed by the other and unless we do just end it on agree to disagree, I feel like it won't have a good ending.
YOU are the one obsessing over Trayvon's race.
To be truly unprejudiced is to treat Trayvon as if his skin colour did not matter, as if he were any other colour of skin, which is what most informed people are doing.
That's what the jury did. They didn't take his skin colour into account because it has absolutely nothing to do with the case.
Obsessing over it and trying to use it as a point to convict a man is wrong.
If you paid attention to the case, it was an issue of Trayvon looking suspicious as anyone walking with a hood up in a place they don't belong would, and attacking a man. Whether that man should have followed him or not is debatable, but he acted entirely in self-defense as an eyewitness has said.
The court case and the over-all ruling is not connected to a racial issue.
The only reason anybody is saying that it is is because the media blew it up into a thing and made it out to be one. They even created a false term to describe Zimmerman, "white hispanic", to mould it into a race issue.
It becomes a race issue because Trayvon stands for all Black people in America. Black people can literally be stalked and killed for wearing their hood.
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And my comments weren't as stupid as yours, seeing as you had to delete your previous one, lol.
His skin colour is not white, if you have actually seen him you can SEE he is hispanic.
And he was not defending himself, he could have continued walking, but he didn't. He stopped and attacked Zimmerman and quite horribly injured him, as photographic evidence can show.
And really, you're not going to be able to convince me of this being a racial issue because had this been a white kid it would never have made the news, which means we have NO idea just how many times something similar has happened to a white kid because it was never blown up by the media the way this was.
But I can see this is a total dead-end conversation, so I'm blocking you and I am done with this because neither of us is going to change the other ones mind and this is not worth it.
Pictures show he was badly beaten and an eyewitness has confirmed Trayvon was the one in control of the fight. Regardless of whether he should have followed him, regardless of why he followed him, he was the one that was attacked and he acted in a case of self-defense.
And were is your proof that if it was a black shooter they would be immediately convicted? What are you basing that off of? Media stereotypes and the general idea of or the fact that it actually happens because last I checked, you can only convict someone if they have gone through trial.
Also I thought I blocked you how were you able to respond to my comment
This isn't your quote, so I can still reply because I'm not blocked by the OP.
I'm sure you are a lovely person, I just don't agree with you and I don't see a point in continuing this conversation as neither of us is being swayed by the other and unless we do just end it on agree to disagree, I feel like it won't have a good ending.
YOU are the one obsessing over Trayvon's race.
To be truly unprejudiced is to treat Trayvon as if his skin colour did not matter, as if he were any other colour of skin, which is what most informed people are doing.
That's what the jury did. They didn't take his skin colour into account because it has absolutely nothing to do with the case.
Obsessing over it and trying to use it as a point to convict a man is wrong.
If you paid attention to the case, it was an issue of Trayvon looking suspicious as anyone walking with a hood up in a place they don't belong would, and attacking a man. Whether that man should have followed him or not is debatable, but he acted entirely in self-defense as an eyewitness has said.
The court case and the over-all ruling is not connected to a racial issue.
The only reason anybody is saying that it is is because the media blew it up into a thing and made it out to be one. They even created a false term to describe Zimmerman, "white hispanic", to mould it into a race issue.
It becomes a race issue because Trayvon stands for all Black people in America. Black people can literally be stalked and killed for wearing their hood.
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And my comments weren't as stupid as yours, seeing as you had to delete your previous one, lol.
His skin colour is not white, if you have actually seen him you can SEE he is hispanic.
And he was not defending himself, he could have continued walking, but he didn't. He stopped and attacked Zimmerman and quite horribly injured him, as photographic evidence can show.
And really, you're not going to be able to convince me of this being a racial issue because had this been a white kid it would never have made the news, which means we have NO idea just how many times something similar has happened to a white kid because it was never blown up by the media the way this was.
But I can see this is a total dead-end conversation, so I'm blocking you and I am done with this because neither of us is going to change the other ones mind and this is not worth it.
Pictures show he was badly beaten and an eyewitness has confirmed Trayvon was the one in control of the fight. Regardless of whether he should have followed him, regardless of why he followed him, he was the one that was attacked and he acted in a case of self-defense.
And were is your proof that if it was a black shooter they would be immediately convicted? What are you basing that off of? Media stereotypes and the general idea of or the fact that it actually happens because last I checked, you can only convict someone if they have gone through trial.
Also I thought I blocked you how were you able to respond to my comment
This isn't your quote, so I can still reply because I'm not blocked by the OP.
I'm sure you are a lovely person, I just don't agree with you and I don't see a point in continuing this conversation as neither of us is being swayed by the other and unless we do just end it on agree to disagree, I feel like it won't have a good ending.
You calling me ignorant when you, yourself is ignorant is just ironic.